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Pumps, Wells, Tanks, Controls / Re: Drip Irrigation Causing Cycle Sensor to go into RCYC mode?
« on: June 16, 2023, 09:06:19 AM »
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Pumps, Wells, Tanks, Controls / Re: Drip Irrigation Causing Cycle Sensor to go into RCYC mode?
« on: June 15, 2023, 08:41:46 PM »
Cary,
The plumbing that runs to the well head is 3/4" sch 40 PVC I assume that it will be able to handle the expected back pressure from the CSV?
Lou
The plumbing that runs to the well head is 3/4" sch 40 PVC I assume that it will be able to handle the expected back pressure from the CSV?
Lou
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Pumps, Wells, Tanks, Controls / Re: Drip Irrigation Causing Cycle Sensor to go into RCYC mode?
« on: June 15, 2023, 03:56:28 PM »
Cary,
Thanks again for the detailed reply. I will see if I can figure out the gpm for the drip emitters. In the meantime, I'll set the rapid cycle sensor to 35 seconds and get a CSV1A ordered. BTW if in the future when the pressure tank needs replacing which of the I purchase the pressure tank kits would I need?
Regards,
Lou
Thanks again for the detailed reply. I will see if I can figure out the gpm for the drip emitters. In the meantime, I'll set the rapid cycle sensor to 35 seconds and get a CSV1A ordered. BTW if in the future when the pressure tank needs replacing which of the I purchase the pressure tank kits would I need?
Regards,
Lou
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Pumps, Wells, Tanks, Controls / Re: Drip Irrigation Causing Cycle Sensor to go into RCYC mode?
« on: June 15, 2023, 12:25:40 PM »
Cary,
I don't believe that the output from the drip system would exceed the well capacity. We're using 5/8" tubing with drip emitters, not an actual sprinkler type system. I turned off the drip system last night and this morning there were no issues, so it appears that it is related to the drip system.
I'm looking over the website to see what would work for ourt application, that is, just a cycle stop valve with our older existing pressure tank, or a complete pressure tank/CSV kit.
I was eventually going to replace the 36 gallon pressure tank, but it's hanging in there. I'm attaching a couple of pictures of the current plumbing setup. If you could recommend which CSV I would need, and if I went with a full system which Side Kick kit.
Thanks,
Lou
I don't believe that the output from the drip system would exceed the well capacity. We're using 5/8" tubing with drip emitters, not an actual sprinkler type system. I turned off the drip system last night and this morning there were no issues, so it appears that it is related to the drip system.
I'm looking over the website to see what would work for ourt application, that is, just a cycle stop valve with our older existing pressure tank, or a complete pressure tank/CSV kit.
I was eventually going to replace the 36 gallon pressure tank, but it's hanging in there. I'm attaching a couple of pictures of the current plumbing setup. If you could recommend which CSV I would need, and if I went with a full system which Side Kick kit.
Thanks,
Lou
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Pumps, Wells, Tanks, Controls / Re: Drip Irrigation Causing Cycle Sensor to go into RCYC mode?
« on: June 14, 2023, 06:51:02 PM »
Cary,
Ok I'll run the test as suggested.
This afternoon I placed a garden hose in the pool and ran it for twenty minutes. The system worked fine, never went into RCYC/DRY mode. The maximum current was 4A when the pump kicked on and just about 3.95A just before it kicked off (I did notice a very brief spike of approx 25A when the sensor flashed RUN, just a flash, only one time).
On average it took about 2 minutes to draw down the 36 gallon pressure tank; the fill time varied between 2- 4 minutes. No air in the system, no issues.
We'll see what happens tonight with the drip turned off.
BTW the drip manufacturer recommends a 15 PSI restrictor on the output side of the feed, not sure if that's contributing to the issue.
I'm having issues logging into the forum, so my responses may be delayed. I appreciate your time and advice.
Lou
Ok I'll run the test as suggested.
This afternoon I placed a garden hose in the pool and ran it for twenty minutes. The system worked fine, never went into RCYC/DRY mode. The maximum current was 4A when the pump kicked on and just about 3.95A just before it kicked off (I did notice a very brief spike of approx 25A when the sensor flashed RUN, just a flash, only one time).
On average it took about 2 minutes to draw down the 36 gallon pressure tank; the fill time varied between 2- 4 minutes. No air in the system, no issues.
We'll see what happens tonight with the drip turned off.
BTW the drip manufacturer recommends a 15 PSI restrictor on the output side of the feed, not sure if that's contributing to the issue.
I'm having issues logging into the forum, so my responses may be delayed. I appreciate your time and advice.
Lou
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Pumps, Wells, Tanks, Controls / Re: Drip Irrigation Causing Cycle Sensor to go into RCYC mode?
« on: June 14, 2023, 10:52:59 AM »
Cary,
Thanks for the reply. I do not have a Cycle Stop Valve on the pump, just the sensor. Yesterday I changed the time for the drip to run to 11:30 PM, for 20 minutes. This morning at 0500 AM the sensor was reading RCYC again; and there was air in the faucets.
I should also mention the we have water softener system that is set to run at 0200 AM.
Up until the recent dry weather we had no issues, so I'm wondering if the drip system could be drawing the well down too low due to lack of rain and causing issues, including the air in the system?
I checked and the settings for the Cycle Sensor are: Current Adj -3.65A, Dry Run Delay - 25 minutes, Rapid Cycle Setting - 45 seconds
I'll turn the drip off today and see if the problem repeats itself tomorrow. I guess I can also try lowering the Rapid Cycle number, but other than that I guess I'll have to call the well company back out.
Lou
Thanks for the reply. I do not have a Cycle Stop Valve on the pump, just the sensor. Yesterday I changed the time for the drip to run to 11:30 PM, for 20 minutes. This morning at 0500 AM the sensor was reading RCYC again; and there was air in the faucets.
I should also mention the we have water softener system that is set to run at 0200 AM.
Up until the recent dry weather we had no issues, so I'm wondering if the drip system could be drawing the well down too low due to lack of rain and causing issues, including the air in the system?
I checked and the settings for the Cycle Sensor are: Current Adj -3.65A, Dry Run Delay - 25 minutes, Rapid Cycle Setting - 45 seconds
I'll turn the drip off today and see if the problem repeats itself tomorrow. I guess I can also try lowering the Rapid Cycle number, but other than that I guess I'll have to call the well company back out.
Lou
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Pumps, Wells, Tanks, Controls / Drip Irrigation Causing Cycle Sensor to go into RCYC mode?
« on: June 13, 2023, 10:08:43 AM »
All,
A couple of moths ago we installed drip irrigation in the garden. It runs for 20 minutes early in the morning restricted to 15 psi; no issues until recently the Cycle Sensor has been shutting down the pump showing it's tripped due to short cycling (RCYC mode). Could the drip irrigation cause this?
We had the well pump replaced 3 years ago; it has been relatively dry, but we just had a good rain two days ago and the pump was off this morning again.
I did check the pressure tank the other day and re-confirmed it was holding pressure (38 psi on a 40/60 pressure switch).
Could the drip irrigation be pulling down the well level too far? (the pump is at 133' and when they replaced the pump it was showing 30' of water in the well).
No air in the system, just going into RCYC mode. When the pump runs from zero pressure the max current is approx 4.5A.
Thanks,
Lou
A couple of moths ago we installed drip irrigation in the garden. It runs for 20 minutes early in the morning restricted to 15 psi; no issues until recently the Cycle Sensor has been shutting down the pump showing it's tripped due to short cycling (RCYC mode). Could the drip irrigation cause this?
We had the well pump replaced 3 years ago; it has been relatively dry, but we just had a good rain two days ago and the pump was off this morning again.
I did check the pressure tank the other day and re-confirmed it was holding pressure (38 psi on a 40/60 pressure switch).
Could the drip irrigation be pulling down the well level too far? (the pump is at 133' and when they replaced the pump it was showing 30' of water in the well).
No air in the system, just going into RCYC mode. When the pump runs from zero pressure the max current is approx 4.5A.
Thanks,
Lou
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Pumps, Wells, Tanks, Controls / Re: Air in line after pressure washing
« on: September 21, 2022, 08:00:01 AM »
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Pumps, Wells, Tanks, Controls / Re: Air in line after pressure washing
« on: September 20, 2022, 08:29:11 AM »
Cary thanks for the reply.
By "drop pipe" you are referring to the pipe from the pump up to the top of the well?
Lou
By "drop pipe" you are referring to the pipe from the pump up to the top of the well?
Lou
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Pumps, Wells, Tanks, Controls / Air in line after pressure washing
« on: September 19, 2022, 06:33:09 PM »
All,
I have a Cycle Sensor installed in our well system and everything works great. However, recently I was power washing the siding, taking breaks about every 15 to 20 minutes, so as not to overheat the well pump or run the well dry. I know that is what the Cycle Sensor protects against and after frequently checking I never had the CS go into "rapid cycle" or "dry" condition.
However, the next day I had some air in the cold water line, it purges out periodically and then seems to go away. I'm wondering why this is happening and if I might actually be harming the well pump?
Thanks,
Lou
I have a Cycle Sensor installed in our well system and everything works great. However, recently I was power washing the siding, taking breaks about every 15 to 20 minutes, so as not to overheat the well pump or run the well dry. I know that is what the Cycle Sensor protects against and after frequently checking I never had the CS go into "rapid cycle" or "dry" condition.
However, the next day I had some air in the cold water line, it purges out periodically and then seems to go away. I'm wondering why this is happening and if I might actually be harming the well pump?
Thanks,
Lou
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Pumps, Wells, Tanks, Controls / Cycle Sensor
« on: October 13, 2019, 05:19:30 PM »
All,
I Installed a Cycle Sensor this weekend w/o issues. A couple of questions:
1. The sensor is showing .03A when the pressure switch is open. I tried resetting the breaker to zero it out, but once the pump runs it went back to .03. Is that normal or perhaps there's a fine adjustment?
2. The current on the one leg of the incoming line with a clamp on meter is approx. 5.75A, but the Cycle Sensor is reading approx 3.65A at the same time. Is that normal, or is it the way I'm taking the measurement?
3. Is there a way to determine the well refill time using the Cycle Sensor? I have it set at 25 minutes now.
BTW: I also want to thank Cary for all his help on another forum. Thx...
I Installed a Cycle Sensor this weekend w/o issues. A couple of questions:
1. The sensor is showing .03A when the pressure switch is open. I tried resetting the breaker to zero it out, but once the pump runs it went back to .03. Is that normal or perhaps there's a fine adjustment?
2. The current on the one leg of the incoming line with a clamp on meter is approx. 5.75A, but the Cycle Sensor is reading approx 3.65A at the same time. Is that normal, or is it the way I'm taking the measurement?
3. Is there a way to determine the well refill time using the Cycle Sensor? I have it set at 25 minutes now.
BTW: I also want to thank Cary for all his help on another forum. Thx...
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