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Frequently Asked Questions / Re: Possible to run 2 cycle stop valves in same system?

« on: February 26, 2020, 01:45:42 PM »

Thanks Cary, I will try that tonight when I get home. If it makes a difference here is that 2 valves i'm working with.


This is what is what is installed at the top of the well as of yesterday: https://cyclestopvalves.com/pages/csv125

And what was there in the closet already: https://cyclestopvalves.com/pages/pk1a-pside-kick

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Frequently Asked Questions / Re: Possible to run 2 cycle stop valves in same system?

« on: February 26, 2020, 07:41:04 AM »

Originally there was one in the closet, that ran the house. But all the irrigation was before the CSV. Now there is the CSV at the well head and he one in the closet in the house. When i first turned it all back on, it would rapid cycle, down to 40 psi, up to 60 psi, rapidly. Like twice a minute.

I tried adjusting the nut in and it only got worse.  So I backed it out until it would just run without cycling and slowly adjusted pressure up until it was normalized.

Our pressure tank was bad when the well pump died. And the well guy put a 1 gallon tiny pressure tank in there. Not sure that has anything to do with the rapid cycle though

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Frequently Asked Questions / Re: Possible to run 2 cycle stop valves in same system?

« on: February 25, 2020, 11:01:05 PM »

I figured it out (I think haha). Backed out the adjuster on the CSV1A until the pressure started dropping but the pump stayed on. Then slowly increased the pressure until I found the happy spot for it. Able to go,d right at 50 psi without the pump cycling. I can run all my irrigation with the same results.

Sooooooo stoked!  Now to order a new pressure tank since the one the well guy put on there is way too small. I had 4.5 gallon that worked great but the bladder failed and when I had the pump replaced they put a tiny tank on there. Now to decide between the 4.5 gallon or the 10 gallon tank. Hmmm

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Frequently Asked Questions / Re: Possible to run 2 cycle stop valves in same system?

« on: February 25, 2020, 06:31:45 PM »

I posted a while back about this and I finally got to pulling my pitiless and installing the Cycle stop valve at the top of my well head. Now I’m trying to adjust the Cycle stop in the well closet to make it work properly and I can’t seem to figure it out.

If I back it out it drops the pressure down to 30psi but it doesn’t cycle the pump on and off. If I screw it’s in to bring up the pressure it goes to cycling the pump on and off/on and off. I can’t find a happy medium. Any advice?

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Pumps, Wells, Tanks, Controls / Re: Pressure tank replacement

« on: September 17, 2019, 02:19:25 PM »

Unfortunately it won't be easy or cheap in my case if it's under the concrete. We are on a slab foundation which further complicates things.

I will check the air charge tonight in the new expansion tank and see what it's at. Thanks for letting me vent! haha

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Pumps, Wells, Tanks, Controls / Re: Pressure tank replacement

« on: September 17, 2019, 01:11:39 PM »

The saga continues.
 
Pulled the well pump up and we had water at the top of the pipe and it held there for 30 minutes so the check valve most likely isn't my issue.

I installed a ball valve on the house side of the Fleck 5600 Water Softener and can confirm that if I shut off the water to the house it still leaks back.

Shut off the irrigation completely and confirm it still leaks back.

So looks like I have a pipe problem somewhere between the valve at the house and the well head. UGH Next step i'm going to dig up where the pipe is and then have a friend of mine come over and pressure test both sides. I don't know which is worse, having to dig up the new front yard or having to jackhammer the new walkway to the house if the leak is under the concrete. UGH

What's weird is, now with the new expansion tank.  Rises to 60 psi, then slowly drops to 50 psi (Slow as in 90 to 120 seconds to drop) and then once it hits 50 PSI it drops fast to the 30psi kick on and then repeats.

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Pumps, Wells, Tanks, Controls / Re: Pressure tank replacement

« on: September 05, 2019, 10:23:47 AM »

160' and I believe it's currently on galvanized pipe. So it's most definitely outside of my skill set.

Will be a good time to just replace the pump, pipe and wiring as well. 

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Pumps, Wells, Tanks, Controls / Re: Pressure tank replacement

« on: September 05, 2019, 10:02:41 AM »

UGH, sounds like I need to call a well service company and have them pull the pump up. I'm not equipped to handle that haha.

Thanks Cary!

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Pumps, Wells, Tanks, Controls / Re: Pressure tank replacement

« on: September 05, 2019, 08:32:35 AM »

Is there a check valve in the cycle stop itself? I don’t see anything before the CSV

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Pumps, Wells, Tanks, Controls / Pressure tank replacement

« on: September 04, 2019, 11:48:54 PM »

I have a PK1A system with a 4.4 gallon pressure tank. Has been installed and working fine a long time.

My system started cycling on and off since yesterday. I traced it down to my pressure tank that is showing zero PSI with no water in the system. I tried added air and car hear it escaping inside the tank. So it’s replacment time. Can I use any 4.4 ish gallon tank as a replacment, or should I order a replacment from Cycle stop directly? I like using original manufacturer parts but also don’t like the idea of my pump kicking on/off as much as it is until the tank comes in.

I might grab one from Lowe’s tomorrow and see how it does.
Any thoughts?

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Frequently Asked Questions / Re: Possible to run 2 cycle stop valves in same system?

« on: April 12, 2019, 11:57:27 AM »

hhhmmmm Awesome. That gives me a couple of good ideas.

Thanks! i'm looking forward to not having to stress about my pump with the drip system comes on. hahaha

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Frequently Asked Questions / Possible to run 2 cycle stop valves in same system?

« on: April 12, 2019, 10:12:11 AM »

I bought a house last year and it has a the PK1A valve setup for the house. I love it for the house.

But the original owner plumbed the irrigation in BEFORE the house. It's been running like this for nearly 8 years. The lawn sprinklers will kick the pump on and keep it on while they are running. But the drip systems (4 of them) will not.

So my question is this: I know that I can install a CSV125 in a box underground outside of the well head and then remove the PK1A in the house. But can I install a CSV125 in line with the irrigation only and still keep the PK1A in the house?

I'm going to dig up my sprinkler main shut off and replace it due to it leaking and was thinking if this will work, it would be a perfect time to get it done.

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Frequently Asked Questions / Re: Bought a house with PK1A Pside-Kick installed

« on: May 07, 2018, 11:46:49 AM »

I will have to dig up the well and see if I can drop one in prior to where it t's off for the sprinklers and hydrant. Hoping that's the case, and I don't have to get into the well case itself.

Thanks for the quick response!

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Frequently Asked Questions / Bought a house with PK1A Pside-Kick installed

« on: May 07, 2018, 10:26:40 AM »

We bought a house in January with a PK1A Pside-Kick installed that has been in the house for a little over 9 years according to the previous owners.

I love how small the system is and it delivers "Ok" water pressure. In my search for how to bump up the pressure a little I read that it is not good to have the hydrants and sprinklers before the CSV. This house currently has 3 drip systems with over 12 trees on each one, 3 sprinklers runs with 4 to 5 sprinklers each, and 1 frost free hydrant in the on the back half of the property that are all plumbed before the CSV. I'm not sure if the sprinklers are using the the full amount that the pump can put out and I don't know how to test/confirm that is it. I know that the hydrant out back, has low pressure at first, then has a burst of HUGE water pressure and then comes down to a normal (Not sure what PSI) pressure when left wide open. I am pretty certain that it is plumbed before the CSV.

Am I doomed to have a failed pump with this setup? This is our first house on a well and i'm pretty new to the whole setup.