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If a CSV is installed can I still leave the water running at a trickle pencil lead thin to prevent freezing and to cycle the system some when it's freezing?  Or will the pump constantly run?   :o

Thanks.......

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Pumps, Wells, Tanks, Controls / Pump Pressure Drops when it comes on?
« on: June 03, 2013, 06:00:43 PM »
ok...this is my 1st submersible pump........still in house construction..........we have a temp tank hooked up right by the well.............6" well, 1 HP Goulds pump, set at 300 ft. on a 385 ft. well.........I noticed that when the pump comes on at 38 psi, the pressure immediately drops as the pump is calling to come on and as it comes up to pressure...........it's very noticeable drop in pressure if your using a hose pipe and the gauge drops down to 10-15 lbs. as the pressure switch closes and it immediately comes back up as the pump gets going.....then it pumps right on up to 60 lbs. with no problem.  Not sure what is causing that drop? 

Is this pressure drop normal?  and if not what could be the problem?

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Pumps, Wells, Tanks, Controls / PumpSaver Protection Advice
« on: April 17, 2013, 02:17:56 PM »
Ok.....well got the Gould 10LS10422C pump installed .............I know these pump savers are good to have.... without spending a fortune can anyone recommend one.....extra features are nice on these, but my main concern is protecting the pump at a reasonable price.....or is the product line offered by Gould the way to go?  This unit will be inside in the basement by the pump switch I guess...

I also so that Gould has some pump control boxes......what exactly is included in these?  is it simply a control relay or more to it?

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Pumps, Wells, Tanks, Controls / Question about Goulds LS & GS Pumps
« on: April 17, 2013, 12:53:26 PM »
Can anyone tell me the difference in the Goulds submersible pumps......   they have a LS series and a GS series.......I'm guessing the LS is a lesser quality pump because it's what the contractor used......does anyone know?

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Pumps, Wells, Tanks, Controls / Whole House Filter Advice
« on: April 16, 2013, 10:49:06 PM »
Can you guys recommend a whole house filter?  I was looking to get one that had dual filters so I can clean one while keeping one in service..........for a 3 bedroom, 3.5 bath house..........new well.........haven't tested the water yet, but neighbors have told be of problems with some fine sand.........but my well is deeper than theirs, so I don't know if I will have a problem. 

Should I just try to put it on as soon as the house is finished or wait to see if there is a problem?  Can you usually see this stuff in a glass of water? or can it be too fine to see but it can still accumulate in the  lines?

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Pumps, Wells, Tanks, Controls / New Install.....need Advice
« on: April 15, 2013, 06:28:56 PM »
I need some advice, as I am not 100% sure my well guy is figuring things correctly.  They drilled a new 6" well and hit a large vein at 385 ft.  The well guy drilling estimated a conservative 80-90 gpm.......he was unsure but said it may be as high as 100 gpm......he said the well will never go dry regardless how much I use!!!  They did not know for sure the water level in the well and they were already quoting a pump I needed.  After discussion I figured out that they needed to know the water level to figure out the right pump and tank.  So the guy told me to drop a marble size rock in the well and time it until I hear the splash.  I did it twice with a stop watch app and it times at 2.8 seconds.......he said 25 ft. per sec. which comes out to 70 ft. for the water level.

This is what they are proposing to me for a system, a Goulds 10GS10 pump (10 gpm, 1 HP, 1 1/4" discharge, set at 300 ft.), a Goulds 44 gal tank (w/15 gal. draw down), I presume 1 1/4" pipe between the two which is approx. 100 ft. to the basement, pressure sw., etc. etc.
The house is new 2900 sq. ft., 4 bedroom, 3.5 bath........and I may possibly want to be able to run sprinklers or maybe even install a sprinkler system if needed later.

The Gould charts for this pump says at 80 ft. water level with a 40/60 sw. settings, that this 10GS10 pumps out 15.5gpm to 13.7 gpm.  It also list a shutoff pressure of 132 lbs.

My concerns are mostly having a proper sizing so that the pump cycles are at least 2 mins., .......also the guy says the pump at 300 ft. can handle this load all day long, as the 300 ft. level doesn't affect the pump.... he said it is only pumping the water the 70 ft., the remainder of the pipe coloum is just the draw down available for the pump should I ever need it.  I mentioned do we need a larger tank since this pump can basically supply that 15 gal. draw down in 1 min.  I also asked if we needed a CSV valve.......he knew what they were, but apparently they only use them to correct water hammer, etc.  they apparently don't use them to control pump cycles.....plus he mentioned a couple hundred to install one.  He seemed to be getting aggravated with my questioning his pump wisdom so I let it go.......thinking I can add the CSV if needed later on.  If so, which CSV do I need, I want to install it in the basement and maybe have one that is adjustable......but I've read some leak a little.....please advise...

Also he is quoting me $1985 for the Goulds pump, wire, piping, etc. to install it at the well head, and set a temp tank setup to use during construction.  Then after construction he's quoting another $1135 to install to the house, approx. 100ft. set tank and system up.........this is located in NC......do these prices sound in line or HIGH ?  .............this did not include the drilling cost which was $8 a foot @ 385 ft = $3080.

Any help/advice the experts can give will be greatly appreciated!!    :-\

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