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Applications / Hooks, TX Uses CSV While Water Tower Out for Service
« on: July 17, 2015, 09:56:44 AM »
This link will take you to the Water Efficiency magazine article on how the CSV was used at Hooks, TX when the water tower was off line for service.

"I had run across this device called a Cycle Stop Valve which actually works so well you don’t even need a water tower.”

https://www.waterworld.com/drinking-water/distribution/article/14070406/all-about-the-cycle-stop-valve-csv
https://www.waterworld.com/drinking-water/distribution/article/14070071/more-benefits-of-the-cycle-stop-valve-csv
https://www.waterworld.com/home/article/14069951/simplicity-under-pressurethe-valve-that-delivers



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Reviews / "Best Showers Of My Life"
« on: July 15, 2015, 04:52:43 PM »
Over the 20 years I've lived in this house in Winter Haven, Florida, I've been very confused about the proper functioning and setup of my well. I just assumed that pulsing, sudden shutoffs, and other weird well dilemmas were what "goes with the territory". Well, all that has changed since I installed the Sidekick kit. I've enjoyed the best showers of my life since my pressure is always at 50 psi. When I showed my next door neighbor the install, he was really impressed. He told me that this will be his next purchase. (Three pressure tanks replaced in 12 years!) You'll know him by his address. Thanks so much for your kind setup assistance. The install was no problem.  Thanks again.

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Reviews / CSV feeding RO system
« on: July 01, 2015, 11:49:52 AM »
I have installed your CSV system and reset my pressures for 48/68 with a CSV setting it 60 psi.  I also installed a whole house RO system that runs for 1-3 hours at a time.  My flow is constant and my pressure maintains exactly 60 psi with my well pump never cycling.  I love this system and it takes up no space at all compared to the old big pressure tank I removed
 
Randy

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Applications / MOVED: New CSV1A Installation -- Success!!
« on: June 29, 2015, 06:54:44 AM »

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Reviews / Thanks from an Engineer
« on: June 17, 2015, 10:59:30 AM »
Thanks!

I had researched your cycle stop valves a year or two ago.  I had put it on the "to do" list but had not made it to the top.  My pump died recently so it then made it to the top quite quickly in combination with my pump replacement.  As a mech engineer I see life through a series of problems and varying solutions.  Some solutions are good and some not as good.  I applaud your solution; it is a good one!  Got it installed and seems like it is working great.  Now I just need to find someone that will share in my appreciation...  By the glazed look in my wife's and children's eyes when I showed it to them as it was working, I don't think they fully appreciated it.

Thanks for the invention.  Hopefully I will never have to pull lengths of pipe up out of deep hole again.
Chris

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Reviews / Product Review from an Engineer
« on: June 17, 2015, 10:58:10 AM »
Great product, great support!

Dave Sturrock on May 31, 2015

A friend of mine wanted to irrigate a small field
from his home well. A potential well driller recommended trying this instead.

The support people answered our questions clearly, quickly, and completely. This was very easy to install and worked perfectly from minute one. They turned on the irrigation system and it ran for 6 hours without a single pump cycle. I monitored it for the weekend and my friend has continued monitoring it and it continues to work flawlessly.

I just ordered one for my own well to stop the cycling when the softener and filter are running and when the kids run through the sprinkler.

As an engineer I give this my full endorsement as an innovative and inexpensive solution that really works!

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The following is an example of the typical emails I have been getting on a regular basis for over 20 years.  People wonder why the Cycle Stop Valve has been around so long and isn’t installed on every pump application or isn’t even all that well known.  The CSV must be the most counter-intuitive product on the market.  When the majority of Engineers think like the guy in the following email, it is no wonder that the average person or even experienced pump installer is confused about what to do.

All I can tell you is that it has taken me 20+ years to learn a lot of this stuff on my own, because there apparently are very few that know enough to teach it to me.  Time has proven me correct on all counts.  In all these years no one has been able to prove me wrong, the damage to pumps or increase in energy consumption they predicted never came true, and I am still in business with hundreds of thousands of happy customers and zero unhappy customers.

But all too often I get an email like the following.  I will spend hours trying to show them how to read a pump curve.  In the end I will either see the light bulb brighten above their head at the moment of understanding, or I will be told I am entitled to my own opinion and never get a reply to my explanation.  They will either become better engineers for finally understanding the counter-intuitive principal of centrifugal pumps, or they will be the cause of the next “Engineering Disaster”, which is one of my favorite shows.

Not only is the function of a CSV counter-intuitive and hard to understand, but it is also a “disruptive product” that makes pumps last longer, use smaller pressure tanks, and eliminates the need for profitable items like VFD’s.  I guess there is no wonder why in all these years the Cycle Stop Valve has not become commonplace.  But it is a fun thing to sell as everyday I get to show people something they find amazing.  And I have very little competition as there are very few who can explain how it works.

I hope the guy in the following email will see the light soon.  I love it when one of these guys finally gets it.  The light bulb above their head gets really bright when they do.


"To Whom it May Concern
Ignorance truly is bliss. Your website demonstrates you have a very rudimentary understanding of pumping technology and fluid mechanics, I'm going to send it to my engineering buddies so they get a good laugh. Good for you for being able to cite VFD technology from 1993 as a reason to use pressure reducing valves that have been around for over 100 years, all while claiming they save energy, all while getting people to believe it and making a business out of it. You don't even understand the pump affinity laws from the looks of things. I find the ethics of your marketing very questionable and would suggest you make some edits and stop spreading lies. There is no "VFD Conspiracy."

I'm a licensed professional engineer and also a Certified Energy Manager through AEE. If it were worth my time I could easily show you how putting a flow restriction device on a pump wastes energy.  It is probably the first thing you learn in engineering. You aren't the first good-ole-boy I've seen making ridiculous claims.  You can't say a technology is wrong because you've seen it implemented on the wrong applications. I don't think you have the knowledge or credentials to back up what you are saying. I read most of the drivel on your site and am appalled it is even legal for you to do so.

Regards,
Licensed Professional Engineer and Certified Energy Manager through AEE"



I will post the results of this conversation, one way or the other.

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Reviews / CSV1A on Shallow Well Jet Pump
« on: April 15, 2015, 08:02:16 AM »
A customer in Canada installed this himself, and did a really good job.


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Applications / CSV125 Installed in the Well
« on: December 10, 2014, 11:06:57 AM »
CSV12550-1 installed in the well below the pitless.  4.5 gallon size tank in rectangular valve box.  Pressure switch and gauge in 6" stub casing under PVC cap.  Shut off valve to house in little round valve box on the right. 

Up to 2HP, 25 GPM pumps

In areas where the frost line is not very deep, the pressure tank and switch can be installed in shallow valve boxes.  This makes for a complete water system installation without having any equipment installed inside the house or a building.  This set up also means you can tee in to the underground line between the well and the house.  You can tee to the garden, a barn, or even multiple houses anywhere you can get to the underground line.

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Applications / Concrete Plant and Bottling Plant
« on: December 05, 2014, 10:36:56 AM »


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Reviews / "Under Pressure" WWJ article 2009
« on: December 05, 2014, 09:58:33 AM »
There are several references by contractors in this Water Well Journal article from 2009.  As I post this at the end of 2014 you should understand that many of the VFD's mentioned by these contractors have already been taken off the market due to problems.  You should also understand that many of the VFD's systems the contractors said had not given them any problems have most likely failed since this article was written in 2009.






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Reviews / "Keeping the Pressure On" WWJ Article 2008
« on: December 05, 2014, 09:49:26 AM »


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From a Home Owner with a Open Loop Heat Pump

I have a system I installed in 2006, which consists of a CP-75 constant pressure pump, feeding a 4-ton system, and then draining into a different well. The flow is set to about 12 GPM. I also use water for irrigation around the house, during the dry season.

 The pump head is a F&W 4F19S10, and after the first three months of use, I started getting metal particles into the filter I placed before the HP. The pump failed the first day below zero. Luckly I had a pump in the discharge well, and was able to use that to heat until a warranty pump could be shipped and installed.

 Now, about 6 years later, the pump has failed again. It has been suggested that the overdriven pumps, like the CP-75 system uses, are prone to early failures.

 I am wondering if anyone with more information or experience might comment on this. Meanwhile I'm getting tired of pulling the well pump. Oh, the details, the well is 30 gpm, 75' deep, and the pump at 60', with the static water at 28'

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Reviews / Pressure Like a Five-Star Hotel
« on: December 04, 2014, 07:42:01 AM »


Hello,
I purchased and installed one of your valves (CSV1Z) back on 04/01/2011.  April Fool’s Day!!!  I was skeptical, and considering the day I was installing it, I figured it was destined to be a move I would regret.  Well, I think it’s safe to say at this point I couldn’t have been more wrong.  Your valve has done exactly what you said it would do and has performed flawlessly.  I have installed geothermal heating/cooling, all new windows and doors, improved insulation, re-wired and re-plumbed my entire 40+ year-old house, etc., etc.  Each of those items carried a pretty high price tag and delivered a noticeable benefit.  However, from a “bang-for-your-buck” standpoint, your valve takes that prize…uncontested!  Being able to shower and not have to wait for the tank to pump back up in order to have enough pressure to rinse the soap out of your hair may not sound like such a big deal, but it is.  It’s like having municipal water pressure without the disgusting chlorinated “city water”.  It’s like showering at a five-star hotel.  I also didn’t like the price tag or the track record of other “constant pressure” methods.

Thank you again for a great product

 

Ron H

Columbia City, IN

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Heat pump install date August 2007                                                    Updated and replaced 80 gallon tank with Pside-Kick
                                                                                                           kit and 4.5 gallon pressure tank December 2012

My well is a low producing well that only makes 4 GPM. The well has a couple of hundred gallons of storage on top of the recovery rate of 4 GPM. So my well pump can produce up to 10 GPM for short periods of time. My heat pump needs a minimum of 4 GPM for long periods of time. The peak domestic use for the house is 10 GPM.  I would have needed 14 GPM to supply both at the same time, which the well and pump is not able to do.

So I tied in my domestic water to the discharge side of the heat pump instead of the inlet side. Now all the water goes through the heat exchanger before it gets used for domestic use in the house. 

When the house is using more than 4 GPM while the heat pump is running, the extra flow through the heat pump reduces the temperature differential, and makes the heat pump more efficient. When the house is not using any water, and the heat pump is on, 4 GPM is being dumped into an earth tank for livestock use. This way a 10 GPM pump is adequate to supply the heat pump and the domestic use. I was able to use a 1/3 HP well pump. This 1/3 HP pump supplies the heat pump, the house, a barn, a guest house, a little irrigation, two small wildlife watering stations, and an ornamental fountain, before the excess goes to the livestock tank, where I also raise fish. This not only makes the most use of the limited water available but, also requires a smaller well pump, which saves energy on pumping cost for the Geo system.

The well pump was already running 24/7 at a cost of about $70 per month, to supply the water for livestock. I am just pulling the heat out of the water and supplying the houses before it goes to the livestock tank, which basically means my heat and domestic water supply is free.

The showers in the main house are the only place where we notice the change in temperature for using the discharge water from the heat pump. When the AC is on, the cold water in the shower is almost perfect without adding any hot water, which saves energy and hot water. When the heat is on, the cold water in the house is a little colder, so we have to add more hot water to adjust the shower temperature. With a 50 gallon water heater, we still have plenty of hot water. The change in the water temperature for the house is not even noticed by the toilets, sinks, ice maker, or washing machines.

The discharge water from the heat pump at the main house travels about 1,200 feet to feed domestic water to the barn and guest house. By the time it gets there it is already back to ground temperature, and no one at the guest house notices a temperature change from the heat pump at the main house.

The only concern I had was the quality of the water discharging from the heat pump (copper) coming through the heat exchanger to feed the house domestic supply.
Got the water tested. (August 2009) Copper was 33 ppb, and the EPA says the acceptable level of copper is 1300 ppb. This sample was taken after the heat exchanger and all the way to the other side of the house, which is all copper pipes. The system is less than 2 years old, so it should get even better with age as the green patina covers the inside of the copper pipes. Everything else tested below the detection limit of 5 ppb.

Update;  12/03/14
This system is now about 8 years old and we have had no problems.  Teeing in the domestic water on the discharge side instead of the inlet side of the heat pump has saved a considerable amount of water and energy.  In this way the same water gets used at least twice for the same expense. 

The well pump has never shut off except during a few power outages, and then only for short periods of time.  Pumps like to run 24/7, so the pump should last many times longer than a well pump that cycles on and off frequently.

Conclusion;
Teeing the water for the house domestic use on the discharge side of the heat pump has many benefits.  It allows the use of a much smaller, less expensive pump, which saves considerable energy and water compared to the traditional way of teeing in the house supply on the inlet side of the heat pump.

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