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Valve Tech / Re: Help with Valve installation
« Last post by Sebanavila on July 27, 2023, 05:16:02 PM »
After almost 6 hour of struggling and finding surprises I finally did it, it is working as it is suppose to, I still have a tiny drippings at one of the unions but I'll fix it tomorrow.

I did notice that the pressure is not 58 psi the way I thought the valve came by default, it is about 45 psi, I need to adjust it to 58 psi because I have a 81 gallons pressure tank, but I'm confuse on the procedure to do it, can you help?

here are some pictures:
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Valve Tech / Re: Help with Valve installation
« Last post by Cary Austin on July 26, 2023, 09:14:10 PM »
Yep. Will work fine. Sorry I didn’t mention it.
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Valve Tech / Re: Help with Valve installation
« Last post by Sebanavila on July 26, 2023, 07:58:58 PM »
Thank you Cary for you response, I found out that I can install it by the well pump as the picture shown here, I found this in the reviews section of your website that one of your customers post it.
I think this will be my best shot, because that well pump connection is exactly like mine.

I will post a picture and review after complete the installation.
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Valve Tech / Re: Help with Valve installation
« Last post by Cary Austin on July 26, 2023, 07:36:27 AM »
Just install the CSV1A on the end of the black poly pipe before that first tee.  It won't matter that it is pointing up instead of sideways, it just has to be before that tee.

Nice drawings!  What did you use to draw those?
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Valve Tech / Help with Valve installation
« Last post by Sebanavila on July 25, 2023, 09:41:29 PM »
Hi everyone I'm new to the forum and to the DIY plumbing world, I just purchase a CSV1A valve to be installed in my ongoing upgrade project, as per the instructions I have to install it with nothing before it other than the well pump, but I just hit a bump and need help, while digging I found that my sprinklers are connected to the main 1.5" line via a reduction to 1" tee and about 12" downstream is the reduction to 1" elbow to the pressure tank. Can I install the valve before the pressure tank the way this is configure or do I have to re-do the whole main line plumbing?

here are some pictures and a diagram:

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Frequently Asked Questions / Re: Can I install this after a hose outlet?
« Last post by Tylerr on July 24, 2023, 01:11:16 PM »
Haha. Good to hear.  This is our custom home, and I am still mad that the plumber installed 3/4” pex.  Wish I had known then.  But if higher pressure will solve the problems, then so be it.
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Frequently Asked Questions / Re: Can I install this after a hose outlet?
« Last post by Cary Austin on July 24, 2023, 08:48:36 AM »
Yeah those inserts in 3/4 pex make it work more like 1/2" pipe.  More pressure will squirt more water through the small lines.  78 PSI constant will make a lot of difference.  It is your water system.  No sense in putting up with "weak" pressure.  You can have as much pressure as you want, you just have to make it happen.  Adding the CSV1A and setting it at 78 should be all you need to do to have such good shower pressure that you don't even need soap anymore.  Lol!
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Frequently Asked Questions / Re: Can I install this after a hose outlet?
« Last post by Tylerr on July 23, 2023, 01:09:31 PM »
Thank you for the detailed response.  Not confusing.  It was well said.  I am unsure of the well pump size.  It’s 250’ deep.  I may do a before and after video, showing the differences in performance.  I will post it here if I do.  As for irrigation, it’s simply a large hose to a sprinkler.
I really like having the higher pressure in my house, for showers, filling tubs, and even at the kitchen sink.  We have 3/4” pex, and anything less than 50-55 psi, just feels weak.
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Frequently Asked Questions / Re: Can I install this after a hose outlet?
« Last post by Cary Austin on July 22, 2023, 12:10:40 PM »
You can certainly do that.  Placing the CSV1A at the pressure tank will let you set it for 78 when using a shower, and the irrigation teed in prior to the CSV will still work as normal at 65 PSI.  You actually want the CSV set at 78 when using a large tank and a 60/80 switch.  However, when the irrigation is not running, the back pressure from the CSV will be on the lines prior to the CSV, including the irrigation lines to the solenoid valves.  The back pressure will be as much, but also no more than your pump can produce.  You may want to figure the backpressure of your pump because of this.  Horsepower, GPM series, and depth to water is all you need to figure back pressure.  I can help if you feed me the numbers, or I can help you figure out those numbers.

In your second scenario of placing the CSV at the well, here is what happens.  Since you have already matched all your irrigation zones to the output of the pump at 65 PSI, installing the CSV1A prior to the tee to the irrigation will cause a 10 PSI loss at 20 GPM flow.  When everyone of someone's irrigation zones are small and cause the pump to cycle on and off, the friction loss of the CSV1A is a moot point.  They will never see a loss of pressure.  But if one of there zones is already maxing out the pump the way yours does, they see a 5-10 PSI loss on that zone.

A third option is to install the CSV125 or CSVS125 in the well or at the well head.  These valves have so little friction loss that zones matched to the pump will only see a pound or two loss.  However, they are not adjustable and the highest pressure unit we make is 60 PSI.  Therefore all your zones and your shower would be at 60 PSI.

Sorry to confuse you.  Just wanted you to know the options.
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Frequently Asked Questions / Re: Can I install this after a hose outlet?
« Last post by Tylerr on July 22, 2023, 07:36:35 AM »
Thank you for the info.  That is what I was hoping.  I may install it at the well head anyway for simplicity.  But my pressure switch is set to 60/80 psi, and the hose and pump balance out at 65 psi (so no cycling when irrigating).  Just hoping to achieve a constant 78 psi at the showers. 
Thanks again.
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