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Frequently Asked Questions / Re: Amperage Drop

« on: January 15, 2023, 06:07:21 AM »

Send me a prepaid return shipping label and I will send you your junk valve back. I'm using most of the other components so just refund the $224 that you charge for those and we will call it even.

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Frequently Asked Questions / Re: Amperage Drop

« on: January 14, 2023, 06:03:02 AM »

How much do you think larger pressure tanks cost? I picked up a 44 gallon one off the shelf at Home Depot for $360. The 20 gallon tank, which is what is typically recommended go for $200. Your valve costs $224 and the kit that I bought cost nearly $500. So way more up front than buying a larger pressure tank.

As far as the strong constant pressure goes... The only time I really care about the strong constant pressure is when I am taking a shower and my shower doesn't draw enough water to keep the pump from cycling, so bouncing between the set points the whole time like a conventional tank and pump system, but it is actually cycling more often since the tank was so small. I did a test to measure the flow rate with the pump cycling and it was well above the 1 gallon a minute that you claim. With the pump cycling I easily filled a 1 gallon bucket in less than 40 seconds, so your cycling flow rate is at least 1.5 gallons per minute but probably higher because I didn't have time to really tune the test in.

What I ended up doing to maintain the strong constant pressure with my 44 gallon tank is set my pressure switch to come on at 38psi and turn off at 50psi. Then I set my big tank to 42 psi and used your small tank that came with the kit and set it to 36psi. The system will maintain the 40 plus psi right up to the point where the pump cycles and will also use the entire volume of the 44 gallon tank while the small tank will keep pressure on the pump untill it cycles preventing it from hammering and letting it start smoothly. I assume this would work for higher pressures as well, but I have old copper under my slab house, so don't want to exceed 50 psi shut off pressure.

As far as wear and tear on the pump, the traditional tank and pump system can last 20 years. That seems plenty good to me.

The only reason that I purchased this system is because I convinced myself that I would be saving money by watching many of your videos and reading though your statements in this forum. In the end, this valve is a money pit, it will cost you more up front and then the power needed to operate will increase. Like I said my power consumption was 4 times higher with the valve installed and I saw none of the benefits that you claim throughout this forum and in all of your videos.

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Frequently Asked Questions / Re: Amperage Drop

« on: January 13, 2023, 01:53:16 PM »

A few hundred watts does matter when you sell these saying they will save energy. They do not, they run up the energy bill. Kept mine on for a couple weeks and was averaging almost 2 KWH a day with it on. Took it off and installed a 44 gallon pressure tank and my daily power consumption dropped to around .5KWH a day. So, $2/month with a pressure tank and $8/month with your valve installed.

You recommend the J7S pump up and down this forum, and say go with the bigger pump and the cycle stop valve will make it act like a smaller pump when needed. Again it does not, the wattage barly budges when the pump is being restricted. I do like the pump and think it was a great suggestion, but I would not recommend using the cycle stop valve, they do not work as advertised.

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Frequently Asked Questions / Amperage Drop

« on: December 29, 2022, 11:50:45 AM »

I recently bought the kit with everything that was needed preset to 45 psi and installed a new J7S pump. I was really sold on the amperage drop when using less water. I have a power meter installed and have never seen the wattage under 1200w. When it is running all out building pressure it is only running 1250, so not nearly the drop that I was hoping for. It also seems to be cycling off when running a fairly good stream of water, I haven't measured it but I'm fairly sure it is more than a gallon a minute. I also noticed that the pressure switch looks like it is turning the pump on at around 32psi and off only a few psi after it gets past the 45 psi constant pressure. I thought it was supposed be set at 35/55 for 45 constant, so am thinking the pressure switch may be set wrong.