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Cary Austin
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Upthrust Taking out Turbine Bearing
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May 18, 2008, 09:16:34 AM »
A question from an email.
what would cause this? Motor thrust upward taking out the bearing. Would assume if anything it would thrust in the downward direction.
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Cary Austin
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May 18, 2008, 09:18:01 AM »
what type of vertical pump are you talking about and what is the configuration of pump/driver? this make a big difference to the discussion.
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May 18, 2008, 09:18:31 AM »
4650gpm 1780rpm
6stage
4160v motor
1500hp
rigid coupling
correction to previous post should have read motor shaft thrust upward.
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Cary Austin
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May 18, 2008, 09:19:18 AM »
It takes a lot of force to lift a 1500 hp motor. Are all the turbines lifting on the pump, or are they balanced for no axial thrust? Maybe a sudden water hammer affected the pump. Possibly an expansion happened, and up was the only way to go.
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May 18, 2008, 09:19:49 AM »
yes, this is a pit type pump.
took out the top bearing but not the bottom.
shaft show signs of scoring/gouging on only one side.
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Cary Austin
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May 18, 2008, 09:20:33 AM »
motor upper guide bearing was wiped out
thrust bearing was smeared
sorry for short answers info is slow and confusing as it comes in
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May 18, 2008, 09:21:33 AM »
If the pump rotation is wrong, you will still get a delivery pressure , but the upthrust will be excessive and wipe out your bearing. Indication of wrong motor rotation will be high motor current and low flowrate.
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Cary Austin
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May 18, 2008, 09:21:58 AM »
sorry for the dalay but turns out this was not a pump problem. after investigation of all mechanical possibilities we re-visited the electrical side of the equation.
long story short, stray voltage thru the lower motor bearing was found.
thanks to all for their responses.
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