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Valve Tech / Re: Detailed dimensions of all o-rings in the CSV1A valve
« Last post by Cary Austin on July 17, 2024, 04:57:18 PM »Sorry. Couple of machines down so we all hands on deck until back on line. Try not to forget.
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Valve Tech / Re: Detailed dimensions of all o-rings in the CSV1A valve
« Last post by pzinser on July 17, 2024, 10:22:06 AM »Thank you for the diagram/breakdown of valve, showing correct o-ring placement. I also received the replacement o-rings from you and I'm very appreciative.
I try measuring them but I'm not confident once I compare my findings with a table of AS568 available o-rings.
Has the tech guy had any luck finding out the exact type/size of these o-rings?
Thank you again!
Phil Zinser
I try measuring them but I'm not confident once I compare my findings with a table of AS568 available o-rings.
Has the tech guy had any luck finding out the exact type/size of these o-rings?
Thank you again!
Phil Zinser
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Valve Tech / Re: Detailed dimensions of all o-rings in the CSV1A valve
« Last post by Cary Austin on July 10, 2024, 01:07:55 PM »Here is a link to the parts break down. Have to get my tech guy to find o-ring sizes.
https://cyclestopvalves.com/pages/csv1a-parts-breakdown
https://cyclestopvalves.com/pages/csv1a-parts-breakdown
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Valve Tech / Re: Detailed dimensions of all o-rings in the CSV1A valve
« Last post by pzinser on July 10, 2024, 10:47:53 AM »Could you please attach a picture of exactly where the o-rings should sit on the plastic body body with the "window". A pic would be EXTREMELY helpful – the repair kit for this valve has a photo on its order page, but it only shows the o-rings below the valve piece, not ON the valve piece. Presently, I have my "for now" working fix o-ring rolled right up to the bottom of the "windows" and it does not at all seem to be sitting in a slot or a recessed area.
This past Saturday or Sunday, when I took the red housing off the valve assembly I did note that the internal valve piece did not at all lift right out – it seemed “held back” by something and after “pumping” it up and down several times it finally popped-out – it was then that I saw the small torn o-ring left behind sitting in the metal housing.
After I placed my “altered” o-ring, the entire internal assembly EASILY slides in and out of the metal housing with no hindrance in either direction – is that the way it “should” be? If “yes”, perhaps the o-ring failed for unknown reasons and lodged to the side of the internal assembly when I first tried to remove it, creating the hindrance(??).
In any case, I AM very grateful for all your time and help AND for the replacement o-rings you have sent to me.
If you could find out the detailed dimensions of all o-rings on the internal assembly, and post them, it would be great. After searching locally and coming up empty I just want to compare what I could and could not find locally to what the “right size” is.
Thank you again.
Phil Zinser
This past Saturday or Sunday, when I took the red housing off the valve assembly I did note that the internal valve piece did not at all lift right out – it seemed “held back” by something and after “pumping” it up and down several times it finally popped-out – it was then that I saw the small torn o-ring left behind sitting in the metal housing.
After I placed my “altered” o-ring, the entire internal assembly EASILY slides in and out of the metal housing with no hindrance in either direction – is that the way it “should” be? If “yes”, perhaps the o-ring failed for unknown reasons and lodged to the side of the internal assembly when I first tried to remove it, creating the hindrance(??).
In any case, I AM very grateful for all your time and help AND for the replacement o-rings you have sent to me.
If you could find out the detailed dimensions of all o-rings on the internal assembly, and post them, it would be great. After searching locally and coming up empty I just want to compare what I could and could not find locally to what the “right size” is.
Thank you again.
Phil Zinser
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Valve Tech / Re: Detailed dimensions of all o-rings in the CSV1A valve
« Last post by Cary Austin on July 09, 2024, 07:08:16 PM »Sorry for your problem. But that is the first time in 30+ years that an o-ring has been the cause of a CSV failure. Like you saw it smashed in when it was too big, it is squeezed into a slot and should nor be able to move, break, or get out in anyway. We buy them from a local bearing and seal company right off the shelf. See if I can look it up. But would have been posted years ago if there had been a problem.
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Valve Tech / Detailed dimensions of all o-rings in the CSV1A valve
« Last post by pzinser on July 09, 2024, 12:14:52 PM »I encountered a torn o-ring (the smaller one just below the “windows” in the plastic). I could not find any details on exactly what size o-ring is needed.
Apparently, it would be ideal to have the outside diameter, OD, inside diameter, ID, and cross-sectional dimension, CS. (See attached image)
I measured the torn o-ring, and then discovered absolutely no one (5 shops visited) in town had that size. I know I can order them from CSV (and they actually DID put some in the mail to me which I TRULY APPRECIATE) but I really needed an immediate solution because my pump was cycling in 20 second increments every time the 4.4 gal tank “dumped”. No one locally carries a 1/16” thickness (CS or cross-section) ring, which I believe is what’s needed. The “thicker” rings that everyone seemed to have will not allow the red valve housing to seat all the way, and thus it leaks continuously.
I wound up taking a scalpel to the closest-sized one I could find to “thin” it down – I could not believe that this worked (for now) because the result was so ragged, but I never want to do it again.
Long story short, could someone post the EXACT dimensions on ALL the o-rings in this valve. With this info. I’m hoping I can get someone locally to stock them for emergencies.
Thank for your help!
Phil Zinser
Apparently, it would be ideal to have the outside diameter, OD, inside diameter, ID, and cross-sectional dimension, CS. (See attached image)
I measured the torn o-ring, and then discovered absolutely no one (5 shops visited) in town had that size. I know I can order them from CSV (and they actually DID put some in the mail to me which I TRULY APPRECIATE) but I really needed an immediate solution because my pump was cycling in 20 second increments every time the 4.4 gal tank “dumped”. No one locally carries a 1/16” thickness (CS or cross-section) ring, which I believe is what’s needed. The “thicker” rings that everyone seemed to have will not allow the red valve housing to seat all the way, and thus it leaks continuously.
I wound up taking a scalpel to the closest-sized one I could find to “thin” it down – I could not believe that this worked (for now) because the result was so ragged, but I never want to do it again.
Long story short, could someone post the EXACT dimensions on ALL the o-rings in this valve. With this info. I’m hoping I can get someone locally to stock them for emergencies.
Thank for your help!
Phil Zinser
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Applications / Re: In well csv
« Last post by Cary Austin on June 27, 2024, 03:50:57 PM »The 10SQ05-160 can only make about 95 PSI max. If it is really 40' down to water don't set the pressure switch any higher than 40/60, as that is about all the pump can do.
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Applications / Re: In well csv
« Last post by Kristo89 on June 26, 2024, 09:44:20 PM »I’m supposed to receive my CSV-125 this week. I looked up the spec on my well pump and it states that it has a max operating pressure of 217 psi. I have a grundfos 10SQE05-160 well pump that is pushing about 40 ft of head pressure. What would you recommend to ensure I don’t over pressure the csv?
I was also looking at the pressure rating on my well pipe and I think the poly pipe is only rated for 100 psi. What do you recommend for plumbing pipie from the pump to the csv?
I was also looking at the pressure rating on my well pipe and I think the poly pipe is only rated for 100 psi. What do you recommend for plumbing pipie from the pump to the csv?
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Frequently Asked Questions / Re: Will any existing well pump work with a CSV or do I need a special pump?
« Last post by Cary Austin on June 26, 2024, 12:36:32 PM »The CSV was designed to work with a standard full speed pump to replace those expensive, troublesome, and short lived VFD or variable speed drives. Actually most variable frequency controls also work with a standard pump. There is really nothing different about the pumps. Just the expensive VFD controller makes a good pump give troubles and not last very long.
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Frequently Asked Questions / Will any existing well pump work with a CSV or do I need a special pump?
« Last post by jimlivesay@yahoo.com on June 25, 2024, 08:05:18 PM »Do I need a pump that would be able to change frequencies or is a standard well pump ok to use with a CSV?